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I don’t get the liposomal colloidal idea from the above marketer.  Why enclose your minerals in fat? How can you have ionic and liposomal together unless one of the processes is incomplete? Does not the liposomal block the intestinal chelation with proteins that provides optimal absorption? What is this about the toxic substances cannot be assayed because of potassium, etc.?  There are labs that can tell you the exact compostition down to the number of atoms of each substance in a sample. Where are  the citations for the  countless indepndent lab or research reports? Well.   Your move. Bob.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I must admit that I have never heard as many negative complaints and comments concerning the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals.  I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness. Please post references.  Since you have read "countless reports" would you mind sharing a few with the rest of us?  Thanks! "Providing NEWAYS to Bridge the Gap Between Science and Human Needs." "A SINCERE OPPORTUNITY" NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES TAKE DESPERATE SHOTS AT MINERAL SUPPLEMENTS GIANT NEWAYS An Open Letter to All current and prospective NEWAYS distributors We take great pride in the amount of attention that our Mineral Solutions and Maximol Solutions products have earned in the expanding colloidal mineral market…..

(snip, snip, snip) This is not a reference. This is a letter provided to you and other distributors in your MLM. A valid reference or report is an analysis by an independent agency or a reports. All you have provided is a company letter to you.  This is not an unbiased source my friend and is therefore not acceptable in supporting "the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals". Jeff Johnson, MS Performance Fitness & Nutrition

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I must admit that I have never heard as many negative complaints and comments concerning the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals.  I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness. To this I have also heard countless testamonials from those who have seen a marked change in their health after using the products. Lets put MLM aside and concentrate on our continued health and well-being.  Besides, these minerals just make logical sense. We all need to be open-minded about new ideas that we are not accustomed or trained to believe. Who should we really trust, the AMA and FDA who tell us that margarine is better than butter, and that unsaturated fat is better than saturated fat.  These are lies that we have been living for years without questioning the source. Why is the average age of a medical doctor only 58? Why has heart disease increased at the same rate as margarine and vegetable oil consumption in the last 20 years? We must question all of the so-called "truths" to see if they are really "myths". Good health to you all. Shawn W. Smith http://www.bladecomm.com/ssmith/simple.htm

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I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness.

PLEASE POST THESE REPORTS. If you have seen HUNDREDS, you will have no trouble posting the results of 5-10? Why is the average age of a medical doctor only 58?

It’s not of course, the creator of the tape was lying. AND WILL YOU PLEASE ALSO TELL US WHAT YOU SELL? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -http://www.bladecomm.com/ssmith/simple.htm

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I must admit that I have never heard as many negative complaints and comments concerning the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals.  I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness.

Please post references.  Since you have read "countless reports" would you mind sharing a few with the rest of us?  Thanks!

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I must admit that I have never heard as many negative complaints and comments concerning the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals. I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab

Respected by whom?  Wallach seems to get very little respect from a lot of people who look to me as though they know what they’re talking about. tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness. To this I have also heard countless testamonials from those who have seen a marked change in their health after using the products.

Even if they are more absorbable, about which I’m agnostic, I’ve yet to understand why this is better than just taking a higher dose of a much cheaper, albeit less absorbable, generic mineral supplement. Lets put MLM aside and concentrate on our continued health and well-being.

Do let’s. Besides, these minerals just make logical sense.

They do? We all need to be open-minded about new ideas that we are not accustomed or trained to believe.

What’s that got to do with making logical sense?  Just because an idea is new or unaccustomed doesn’t make it good.  I could advocate that we all put axle grease on our noses at noon every day and spin around ten times clockwise while chanting Druidic verses, and claim it’ll cure lung cancer.  Now, you’ll have to admit that’s a new idea, and you certainly haven’t been trained to believe it.  It’s also utterly ridiculous and no sensible person would give it a second thought. Who should we really trust, the AMA and FDA who tell us that margarine is better than butter, and that unsaturated fat is better than saturated fat.

They used to tell us that.  I think the idea is now coming into question. These are lies that we have been living for years without questioning the source.

If nobody questioned the source, there wouldn’t be research trying to find out if it’s good advice.  Only there is. Why is the average age of a medical doctor only 58?

I assume this is a screwed-up rehash of the well-respected Wallach’s bogus claim of the lifespan of MDs. Why has heart disease increased at the same rate as margarine and vegetable oil consumption in the last 20 years? We must question all of the so-called "truths" to see if they are really "myths". Good health to you all.

And we should therefore also be questioning the "truths" of colloidal minerals.  Or chelated ones, or whatever it is you’re selling.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "The difference between a printing press and a modern digital long-       distance network is that the press produces money much more slowly."                                     — Neil Kirby, Lucent Technologies

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: Why is the average age of a medical doctor only : 58? It isn’t. Next question. : Why has heart disease increased at the same rate as margarine and : vegetable oil consumption in the last 20 years? Even if your statement is true, it is meaningless. The naming of boys "Jason" has also gone up over the past 20 years. Guess the name "Jason" causes heart disease. J

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I must admit that I have never heard as many negative complaints and comments concerning the validity and effectiveness of colloidal minerals.  I am a great believer in the Soaring Eagle product line that has been endorsed by some well respected industry professionals such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Steven Whiting, and Dr. Ma Lan.  Hundreds of independent lab tests and analyses have been administered proving the absorbability claims offered by many marketers of colloidal mineral products.  I have read countless reports and tests that back up and endorse the products and nothing from ANY lab to discredit the minerals effectiveness. Please post references.  Since you have read "countless reports" would you mind sharing a few with the rest of us?  Thanks!

"Providing NEWAYS to Bridge the Gap Between Science and Human Needs." "A SINCERE OPPORTUNITY" NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES TAKE DESPERATE SHOTS AT MINERAL SUPPLEMENTS GIANT NEWAYS An Open Letter to All current and prospective NEWAYS distributors We take great pride in the amount of attention that our Mineral Solutions and Maximol Solutions products have earned in the expanding colloidal mineral market. They are the products of choice, and it is a tremendous compliment that other companies, in an attempt to gain ground on the phenomenal popularity of Mineral Solutions and Maximol Solutions, would try to make comparisons with our products. There are many good companies in the industry and many good products. We believe that most competitors base their research and marketing activities on honesty and integrity. After all, most companies are trying to promote good health and improve quality of life. when dishonesty and a lack of integrity creep into the market place, we know, without a doubt, that the motive is strictly based on an attempt to maximize profits. NEWAYS’ mineral supplements have generated a staggering number of testimonials  not only from pleased Distributors, but also front retail customers whose only motive for testifying on behalf of the product is to say ‘Thanks" for the life-changing effects the product has had on them. When other companies desperately circulate inaccurate information, it becomes necessary for us to establish the facts and allow intelligent individuals to evaluate the truth themselves, when comparing a Liposornal liquid mineral product to a tablet, capsule, or plain liquid form, the following benefits of Mineral and Maxirnol So1utions become overwhelmingly obvious: 1.      The unique liquid delivery system found only in Mineral and Maxirnol Solutions encapsulates the mineral in a liposomal  form that sustains delivery and increases bioavailability. 2.      NEWAYS ensures that the minerals are of proper size to facilitate bioavailablity. Our Mineral Solutions product contains minerals suspended in consistent concentrations throughout the solution by using minerals that are not only colloidal, but ionic. Ionic minerals are the smallest form of the mineral and thus are much more bioavailable than basic colloidal products. 3.      We have analyzed many mineral capsules and tablets and found they are not 100% soluble in water.  This means they are not completely colloidal, and therefore are less bioavailable. You can test this yourself by dropping a pill or capsule into water and watching as sediment forms on the bottom of the glass. This demonstrates that the size of the mineral molecules used in the product are not colloidal because they are too large to be suspended evenly in water.  You will also find that an unopened capsule placed in a glass of water may take days to partially break apart and dissolve.  You may find that the capsule never completely dissolves. Only true colloidal minerals like those found it. NEWAYS’ Mineral Solutions have a small enough particle size to he completely suspendable in water. Recently, a comparative analysis was circulated by a desperate competitor making false and misleading representations about Mineral Solutions.  Independent lab technicians question the validity of this analysis, which was based on test results that did not indicate the detectable limit for minerals analyzed. 1.      The presence of chlorine, sodium, and potassium make it difficult to ascertain the levels of many of the remaining minerals with accuracy.  It is apparent that this analysis was completed without isolating specific minerals and as a result was completely incorrect. 2.      The published analysis reads "NONE" for several of the mineral levels. In the reputable scientific community "NONE" is not acceptable terminology.  Proper analysis would indicate "less than" as an appropriate measure. This substantiates the fact that the specific laboratory method or equipment used may have been inadequate to detect the mineral content of the product. Certain companies have heavily promoted specific humic shale mines, but according to the U.S. Geological Survey the NEWAYS mine draws on a common humic shale deposit.  We are essentially sipping out of the same punch bowl with different straws.  The crucial difference, however, is that NEWAYS does not rely solely on the mined shale to produce Mineral and Maximol Solutions.  We filter our raw material to remove unwanted heavy metals and minimize the levels of sodium to formulate a solution of consistent composition from batch to batch, then supplement it with material from other natural sources rich in trace minerals and electrolytes. We at NEWAYS have developed a consistent mineral base to anchor our powerful colloidal products and "tweak"   the levels of those minerals individually to ensure the products’ purity and conformity We believe that only companies that build a product from the ground up can ensure a consistent formulation. In contrast, products based solely on humic shale are created by simply dissolving mined humic shale deposits in water and then regulating particle size through filtration. Continuity of mineral levels is easily lost in the process, making it impossible to guarantee a specific concentration of minerals in the finished product.  Each batch of the products, therefore, may vary as much in composition as the people consuming it.  NEWAYS thinks that it is irresponsible to market a mineral supplement not standardized from one batch to the next. It is also important to pay special attention to the potentially harmful ingredients found in many of the products on the market. The products of many companies, in our opinion, are contaminated with unacceptable levels of heavy metals such as aluminum, lead, cadrnium, mercury, arsenic, etc., that most health professionals agree are not conducive to good health without the extraordinary steps taken by NEWAYS, it is virtually impossible to control the levels of minerals and potentially harmful ingredients in rnateriais acquired solely from hurnic shale deposits. Another common misconception promoted by the competition is that only minerals obtained through plant sources are beneficial. We view this simply as an attempt to justify products containing high levels of aluminum, lead, cadmiurn, mercury, arsenic, etc. The fact is that minerals, whether derived from plants or from the Earth itself, have exactly the same structure and affect  the body exactly the same way. NEWAYS has gone to great lengths to keep the levels of several minerals in balance because there has been NO proven increase in biological benefit relating to these minerals at higher levels of concentration. Toxicity, however, has been proven at increased levels. Do not be persuaded by competitors’ assertions that high levels of known toxic substances can be beneficial to life after they have been assimilated by plants. It is interesting to note that the maximum allowable level of arsenic in Utah’s drinking water is 0.05 mg/L. It is astonishing to see that in the same inaccurate analysis used by a competitor to highlight alleged "deficiencies" In NEWAYS’ Mineral Solutions.  The level of arsenic in their own product is listed as being nearly six times higher than this maximum allowable amount. At levels far exceeding trace amounts, twenty of the minerals found in competative products are considered by many to be toxic. It is important to note that more is not necessarily better when it comes to mineral supplementation. Dr. Alexis Carrel received the Nobel prize for proving that the living cell would be immortalized if it could only be fed appropriate levels or nutrients.  He concluded that it only takes minute amounts of the correct elements in proper balance to create this "immortal environment."  Balance in the body is achieved by providing only sufficient quantities of minerals in their most bioavailable form, and NEWAYS has developed a process that although complicated and exacting, effectively helps maintain consistent quality, increased bioavailablility, and proper balance. NEWAYS is hopeful that erroneous statements put forth by other companies will not cloud your own good judgment, and we can distribute a certified analysis performed by an independent certified laboratory. Despite claims to the contrary5 it is also possible to visit by appointment our corporate headquarters, manufacturing facilities, and mining operations. We encourage you to analyze these facts carefully because we know that you prefer to arrive at your own informed conclusions. For our part, we know that NEWAYS Mineral Solutions and Maximol Solutions are the products of choice in the colloidal mineral market. NEWAYS, Inc. World Headquarters Salem, Utah USA Http://www.ultranet.ca/neways

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