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::Jackie, how much of the Omega 3 do you take? I aim for 3000 mgs per day, but sometimes only remember to take 2000 mgs. I don’t know if it’s in my head, but 3000 mgs seems to upset my stomach. How are you feeling otherwise? I’ve been worried about you.

Don’t be, dear Jackie. My blood sugar levels were raised and still are but I actually restarted my exercise program. Losing weight is the key here and although I hate it with a passion I wouldn’t want to suffer the consequences of neglected diabetes. Do you take any medication for it and if so how do you like it? I remember a recent post of yours saying that you took some med (this Diovan?) to prevent kidney trouble from diabetes. Why is this necessary? I thought your diabetes was under control by watching your diet. I ask out of interest but also because I want to *know* for myself… and you are really knowledgeable. You are also very sweet. I *never* met anyone, on the net or in RL, who has so much concern and attention for so many other people and on top of it you’re witty and fun company. Everybody here knows this but IMO every now and again something has to actually say it out loud in public. It feels good. Let’s marry as Tanya would say Philip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::http://www.omegabrite.com/company/about_us.html Thanks for the link!! ::evening primrose up to 2600mg per day or borage seed oil up to 3000mg ::per day, flax seed oil up to 3000mg per day Which one would you recommend for me? Jackie ~*~"It’s the crazy ones that have all the good pills"~*~   ~~Kim Cattrall — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::Don’t be, dear Jackie. My blood sugar levels were raised and still are ::but I actually restarted my exercise program. Losing weight is the key ::here and although I hate it with a passion I wouldn’t want to suffer the ::consequences of neglected diabetes. ::Do you take any medication for it and if so how do you like it? ::I remember a recent post of yours saying that you took some med (this ::Diovan?) to prevent kidney trouble from diabetes. Why is this necessary? ::I thought your diabetes was under control by watching your diet. ::I ask out of interest but also because I want to *know* for myself… ::and you are really knowledgeable. ::You are also very sweet. I *never* met anyone, on the net or in RL, who ::has so much concern and attention for so many other people and on top of ::it you’re witty and fun company. Everybody here knows this but IMO every ::now and again something has to actually say it out loud in public. It ::feels good. I take 2000 mgs of Glucophage daily and some cinnamon supplements to help with glucose control. My A1cs are always in the upper 4s and lower 5s. What’s great about the Glucophage is that not only does it help lower blood sugars….. it offers cardiac protection as well. Heart disease is a big killer of diabetics. My doctor is adamant that all her diabetics, even well controlled ones, be on benign and the worst side-effects are usually GI ones, which subside fairly quickly. It’s pretty standard treatment (In the US, not sure about other countries) for diabetics to be prescribed either a ACE inhibitor or angiotensin receptor blocker for kidney protection. About two years ago a urine test showed protein. I was panic-stricken. It appeared to be a lab error but it scared me enough to know that I wanted to stay on the Diovan. I understand how frustrating this disease can be. One thing that helps me to stay in control is remembering how horrible and anxious and depressed I feel when my sugars are all over the place. How are you feeling with elevated sugars? You will get them back down again. Wishing you better health! (((((Philip))))) ::Let’s marry as Tanya would say LOL! I am so touched Jackie ~*~"It’s the crazy ones that have all the good pills"~*~   ~~Kim Cattrall — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: so you can get distilled version that ::supposedly have these materials condensed out through heating-but that ::same heating may alter the structure of the fats, you could also use ::flaxseed oils and I think evening primrose for the same levels as well ::as flaxseed oils or just eat flaxseed. Are you saying these that flaxseed and evening primrose are a safer alternative to the Omega fish oils being there’s a possibility of metal contamination? I’ve been taking fish oils for quite a while now and do feel they help me. It could be placebo effect or that I’m doing better because I have been really pushing myself the last year or so and have made great strides. I’ll switch to evening primrose if it’s safer. Jackie ~*~Nature made us individuals,as she did the flowers and the pebbles; but we are afraid to be peculiar,and so our society resembles a bag of marbles, or a string of mold candles. Why should we all dress after the same fashion? The frost never paints my windows twice alike.~*~   ~~Lydia Maria Child

empirically they are safer alternatives but offer less efa then fish oil-at the doses you are using your intake of metals is pretty low, but do check to see if the product is distilled-some of the more expensive products use a cold nitrogen distillation that would remove most of any heavy metals in particular mercury-I have a link to one if you want it — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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:: so you can get distilled version that ::supposedly have these materials condensed out through heating-but that ::same heating may alter the structure of the fats, you could also use ::flaxseed oils and I think evening primrose for the same levels as well ::as flaxseed oils or just eat flaxseed. Are you saying these that flaxseed and evening primrose are a safer alternative to the Omega fish oils being there’s a possibility of metal contamination? I’ve been taking fish oils for quite a while now and do feel they help me. It could be placebo effect or that I’m doing better because I have been really pushing myself the last year or so and have made great strides. I’ll switch to evening primrose if it’s safer.

Jackie, how much of the Omega 3 do you take? Philip (I take 500 mg and wonder if that’s the right dose) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::Jackie, how much of the Omega 3 do you take? I aim for 3000 mgs per day, but sometimes only remember to take 2000 mgs. I don’t know if it’s in my head, but 3000 mgs seems to upset my stomach. How are you feeling otherwise? I’ve been worried about you. Jackie ~*~Nature made us individuals,as she did the flowers and the pebbles; but we are afraid to be peculiar,and so our society resembles a bag of marbles, or a string of mold candles. Why should we all dress after the same fashion? The frost never paints my windows twice alike.~*~    ~~Lydia Maria Child — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::empirically they are safer alternatives but offer less efa then fish ::oil-at the doses you are using your intake of metals is pretty low, ::but do check to see if the product is distilled-some of the more ::expensive products use a cold nitrogen distillation that would remove ::most of any heavy metals in particular mercury-I have a link to one if ::you want it I’m taking Spring Valley Omega 3 fish oils. They claim it is 99.99 % purified fish oil. I don’t see anything about it being distilled. I’d like that link. Thanks! If I do switch to evening primrose, how much can I take? I am seeing my doctor in a few weeks and will discuss it with her. Jackie ~*~Nature made us individuals,as she did the flowers and the pebbles; but we are afraid to be peculiar,and so our society resembles a bag of marbles, or a string of mold candles. Why should we all dress after the same fashion? The frost never paints my windows twice alike.~*~    ~~Lydia Maria Child — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::empirically they are safer alternatives but offer less efa then fish ::oil-at the doses you are using your intake of metals is pretty low, ::but do check to see if the product is distilled-some of the more ::expensive products use a cold nitrogen distillation that would remove ::most of any heavy metals in particular mercury-I have a link to one if ::you want it I’m taking Spring Valley Omega 3 fish oils. They claim it is 99.99 % purified fish oil. I don’t see anything about it being distilled. I’d like that link. Thanks! If I do switch to evening primrose, how much can I take? I am seeing my doctor in a few weeks and will discuss it with her. Jackie ~*~Nature made us individuals,as she did the flowers and the pebbles; but we are afraid to be peculiar,and so our society resembles a bag of marbles, or a string of mold candles. Why should we all dress after the same fashion? The frost never paints my windows twice alike.~*~   ~~Lydia Maria Child

http://www.omegabrite.com/company/about_us.html evening primrose up to 2600mg per day or borage seed oil up to 3000mg per day, flax seed oil up to 3000mg per day — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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:: so you can get distilled version that ::supposedly have these materials condensed out through heating-but that ::same heating may alter the structure of the fats, you could also use ::flaxseed oils and I think evening primrose for the same levels as well ::as flaxseed oils or just eat flaxseed. Are you saying these that flaxseed and evening primrose are a safer alternative to the Omega fish oils being there’s a possibility of metal contamination? I’ve been taking fish oils for quite a while now and do feel they help me. It could be placebo effect or that I’m doing better because I have been really pushing myself the last year or so and have made great strides. I’ll switch to evening primrose if it’s safer. Jackie ~*~Nature made us individuals,as she did the flowers and the pebbles; but we are afraid to be peculiar,and so our society resembles a bag of marbles, or a string of mold candles. Why should we all dress after the same fashion? The frost never paints my windows twice alike.~*~    ~~Lydia Maria Child — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Margrove,    I have gone through a lot of previous posts regarding Anxiety and Omega 3s. I hope the following is not redundant to anything you’ve posted in the past.    I do not expect that Omega 3s be the "Smoking Gun" for Anxiety. If they help even a little, I would like to continue trying them. I have read their rationale for Depression, and somewhat for Bi-polar depression. Fortunately, I don’t suffer from depression. Only Panic Disorder.    Basically, I’d like to know how much EPA and DHA I need for Panic Disorder. I’ve heard that high doses are required (I think it was for) bi-polar depression.    What is a good way to get the required amount of EPA/DHA without ingesting a lot of mercury or unwanted fats.    For example, (it seems) that a typical bottle of fish-oil contains 18% EPA and 12% DHA. Each capsule is listed to be 1000 mg. One source recommends 3.4 grams of DHA and 6.2 grams of EPA (Edmund Drummond). This would imply: 52 capsules qd for the DHA requirement, and  35 capsules qd for the EPA requirement. Besides financial considerations, this could mean consuming a lot of unwanted substances.    So, I’m wondering: (i) Do you think it’s even worthwhile trying Omega 3s for Panic Disorder (or any Anxiety Disorder)? (ii) What would be a cost-effective solution without consuming too many unwanted side-products? Thanks.

there is much conflicting information about how much efa we need to have, let alone what doses are therapeutic if any. Much has been speculated about benefits in cellular function across neuronal tissue by using efa material and as such some docs, other professionals recommend using a modest amount to possibly gain some benefit, sadly, many quacks also recommend it for profiteering-using a modest amount like a few pills a day doesn’t seem to have adverse reactions in the short time they have been studied. The fish used to get the oil may be contaminated with heavy metals, so you can get distilled version that supposedly have these materials condensed out through heating-but that same heating may alter the structure of the fats, you could also use flaxseed oils and I think evening primrose for the same levels as well as flaxseed oils or just eat flaxseed. I haven’t seen anyone become cured or get significantly better using them for any psychiatric condition including depression unless it was a temporary placebo effect that soon wore off when new conflicts arose. Again, there is no magic bullet, just some tools to try with a high probablity that the laws of trial and error will default to error more then not — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Margrove,         I have gone through a lot of previous posts regarding Anxiety and Omega 3s. I hope the following is not redundant to anything you’ve posted in the past.         I do not expect that Omega 3s be the "Smoking Gun" for Anxiety. If they help even a little, I would like to continue trying them. I have read their rationale for Depression, and somewhat for Bi-polar depression. Fortunately, I don’t suffer from depression. Only Panic Disorder.         Basically, I’d like to know how much EPA and DHA I need for Panic Disorder. I’ve heard that high doses are required (I think it was for) bi-polar depression.         What is a good way to get the required amount of EPA/DHA without ingesting a lot of mercury or unwanted fats.         For example, (it seems) that a typical bottle of fish-oil contains 18% EPA and 12% DHA. Each capsule is listed to be 1000 mg. One source recommends 3.4 grams of DHA and 6.2 grams of EPA (Edmund Drummond). This would imply: 52 capsules qd for the DHA requirement, and  35 capsules qd for the EPA requirement. Besides financial considerations, this could mean consuming a lot of unwanted substances.         So, I’m wondering: (i) Do you think it’s even worthwhile trying Omega 3s for Panic Disorder (or any Anxiety Disorder)? (ii) What would be a cost-effective solution without consuming too many unwanted side-products? Thanks. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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