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Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:) —— My personal experience is that after a particularly long/strenous workout, my legs can cramp up overnight. It usually happens as I partially awaken to move into a more comfortable position, and strech out my legs. The pain of the cramp as it starts is enough to bring me to full consiousness. The cramping you feel may be due to normal streching of the muscle in your sleep. I have yet to try any form of ‘therapy’ except for semi regular streching. I think i may try taking magnesium and calcium supplements. i forgot about that, since i did that as a (very poor) competition swimmer in another life, and it seemed to help. Good luck eric r. i. clinton Office Phone — 545-3018 OFFICE HOURS: 1230-1730 hrs (roughly), Tu-F www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~madpiper/ Physics Graduate Student, bagpiper, and french hornist extraordinaire Student of Shaolin Kempo Karate Alter egos: Iain na Farlane, Realms of Wonder "Blow My Pipes" — kilted hasher of the WHHH Hash Master of HVH3 "Childhood is over the moment you know you’re gonna die." Master evil dude, The Crow
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I can’t comment on the leg cramps but I do recommend Viactiv for anyone wanting to take a calcium supplement. They are chocolate flavored chewable candies. A nice alternative to Tums if you’re turned off by the chalky consistency. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sounds like calcium deficiency. According to an old coaches manual I picked up 10 or so years ago, By the time you’re cramping, your body is already leaching calcium out of your bones to try to keep your muscles working normally. I found that Tums or Rolaids worked like magic on this.
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Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:)
Sounds like calcium deficiency. According to an old coaches manual I picked up 10 or so years ago, By the time you’re cramping, your body is already leaching calcium out of your bones to try to keep your muscles working normally. I found that Tums or Rolaids worked like magic on this. My wife also found that they worked like magic, the few times that I could talk her into trying them….
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Try 6,000 I.U.s of Vitamin E twice or three times a day for a few days. Guarentee no leg cramps. olderic
Ain’t this a bit risky? 6,000 IU of Vitamin E? When most multivitamins have only about 30-60 IU, and antioxydant capsules of vitamin E by itself come in 400 IU tops? Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:)
– Oleg
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Try 6,000 I.U.s of Vitamin E twice or three times a day for a few days. Guarentee no leg cramps. olderic I saw a similar claim below. Your 6,000 I.U. seems high. http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/vitamin/legcramps/more2.html Jennifer – for night leg cramps I’ve found screaming and stomping the floor effective
Funny, my wife preferred that to taking advice from me……
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Try 6,000 I.U.s of Vitamin E twice or three times a day for a few days. Guarentee no leg cramps. olderic
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:)
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Try 6,000 I.U.s of Vitamin E twice or three times a day for a few days. Guarentee no leg cramps. olderic
I saw a similar claim below. Your 6,000 I.U. seems high. http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/vitamin/legcramps/more2.html Jennifer – for night leg cramps I’ve found screaming and stomping the floor effective
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The report to which Jennifer pointed us, which has never been peer reviewed or published in a scientific journal, states, "Just as vitamin E soaks up free radicals linked to heart disease and cancer, it may also attack those causing leg cramps, Dr. Whittier suggests. "We know vitamin E is a scavenger. It may be picking up those irritable agents," he says." At the end of the report it states: "Studies have shown that some people can tolerate up to 1,600 international units of vitamin E a day without experiencing side effects, but some experts caution against taking more than 600 international units a day." For reference, the RDA is around 30 IU. If Dr. Whittier’s hypothesis is that free radicals cause cramping, then any compound that scavenged free radicals would work. Maybe the reason that such high doses of vitamin E were required to lessen cramping is because vitamin E is not as efficient at scavenging free radicals as other antioxidants used in a mixture, like those provided in fruits and vegetables (see my last post Re: co-enzyme Q10). If you look up some of the articles that I cited in that post, you will see that those published studies also warned that large doses of vitamin E, over 250 IU, have no proven benefit and can be dangerous especially in those taking blood pressure or blood thinning medication. I don’t think even Dr. Antonio, PhD in exercise physiology and executive of a nutritional supplement company, would recommend as high a dose as the original poster of this thread. If you have medical problems, see a medical doctor. Patrick http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/paro (Careful of the potholes and unfinished roads. My page requires much construction)
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What’s PF? At any rate, I had those awful calf cramps several mornings a week for years. I doubt it’s the exercise — exercise is one of the things that has helped it go away. I found that taking a calcium supplement _with magnesium_ was the most helpful thing. Everyone says potassium, so I ate lots of bananas and it didn’t help me at all. It was the magnesium that did it. Hey, try them both. Best wishes, Kate – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:)
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At any rate, I had those awful calf cramps several mornings a week for years. I doubt it’s the exercise — exercise is one of the things that has helped it go away. I found that taking a calcium supplement _with magnesium_ was the most helpful thing. Everyone says potassium, so I ate lots of bananas and it didn’t help me at all. It was the magnesium that did it. Hey, try them both. Best wishes, Kate
I’ll second the calcium/magnesium supplements to avoid leg cramps. My midwives suggested them when I had muscle cramps in my pregnancies and they worked immediately. I’ve been taking them ever since and the only time I run into leg cramps is when I run out of cal/mag and haven’t taken it in a week or so. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:)
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Potassium deficiency (hypokalemie) can cause cramps. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep I have painful legs and am wondering whether this is from all the exercise I do or from crunching up my legs and feet when I sleep. They feel like muscular cramps. The pain is in the calves and feet. Sounds like PF, but I haven’t had that problem for a long time. I recently did a 60km bike ride and a 10km run in the one day, that buggered me for a few days. Or could it be the position I sleep in? Any enlightened individuals with ideas let me know please:) Seeya from Nicole:)