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Thanks so much, I will check it out! Elva Elva – someone else in our ng was kind enough to give this URL for the nutritional content of Campbell soups: http://www.campbellsoup.com/kitchen/recipe/nutrition/nutrition_trans….

I stopped in the soup aisle in the grocery store tonight. There sure were  a *lot* of Campbells soups! Anyway, I had a look at what looked like the old-fashioned concentrated chicken noodle soup. It has 2 1/2 servings  per can (according to the label), with 9 grams of carb per serving (of which 1 is fiber–the overcooked celery bits, I guess). Even if you had the whole can, that would be just over 22 grams of carb. I don’t normally pay attention to fiber on labels, so I don’t know how to evaluate that number, but it didn’t seem overly high to me. Alice F

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Thanks so much, I will check it out! Elva – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Elva – someone else in our ng was kind enough to give this URL for the nutritional content of Campbell soups: http://www.campbellsoup.com/kitchen/recipe/nutrition/nutrition_trans….

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It might not be the noodle carbs at all, but as BigAl and others have pointed out, the combination of carbs and fat. Chicken noodle soup, unless it uses defatted chicken broth, has fat in it. Fat works to keep your bg high longer. — Nanuq of the North Remove grzl to send email: I’m only a grizzly before (decaf) coffee! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, I didnt do a home test, this was done in the hospital.  I had a garden salad, with a small chunk of feta cheese on it, and about 2 tbsp. of a dressing called Feta Greek.  The label says it has 6gr of carb per tbsp.  Milk is 1% which I always drink.  I have been doing this salad and feta cheese thing a fair bit, with no adverse results, but it was the first time I had the chicken noodle soup, so that is why I suspect it of being the culprit here!  For lunch that day we went to a sub store and I had a small whole wheat sub with crab meat, lettuce, tomato, onion, and a squirt of mayo, no idea of what brand it was. Diet pop to drink.  That was all for lunch.  I have my bg done at the hosp. twice a wk, the previous time was last Thurs. when I got the 8.0 reading.   Any comments or ideas? Elva I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva I don’t think the soup was the only cause of your higher morning bg. Don’t forget the the error in home bg testing can be greater than the 10% difference between 8.8 and a normal reading (for you) of 8.0.  What amount and kind of salad deressing did you use?  Don’t forget about the carbs in the milk also.  You said you were out for a long day.  What did you eat during the day and did you take a reading before or after dinner?  High morning bg is a lot more complex than just what you ate for dinner the night before. — BigAl

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Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup has the following nutritional facts: Total fat  2g     Sat Fat 1g Cholest. 15 mg Sodium 980 mg Total Carb. 9g      Fiber 1g      Sugars 1 g Protein 3 g

The scary part of the above info is that sodium count. The above serving is 1/2 cup if I remember correctly. I use to eat a couple cups at once. About 4000 milligrams of sodium. I make my own nowadays <g Randalin

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I recently read (don’t remember where) that Campbell soups are full of trans-fatty acids.

Huh?  What are "trans-fatty acids?"  Do you mean "trans-fats?" I’m confused on what these are. dkc David Cohler, South Pasadena, CA Media Access Consultancy http://members.tripod.com/~dcohler/media.htm [To reply by e-mail, delete "removeme." -- including the extra "."]

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A few years back I tried Campbell’s tomato soup – hadn’t had it since my youth. It tasted like tomato-flavored candy! I just checked their nutritional info on their web site, and nowadays, their tomato soup has 10 GRAMS OF SUGAR per half cup. Get ‘em young – stuff ‘em with sugar … pretty soon their taste buds won’t know any better. All they respond to is the sweetness. Feed a dog that isn’t familiar with table snacks many of our commercially-prepared foods and she will spit it out – the response to candy. If we want to learn more about why, despite all the TV shows and magazine articles teaching us how to eat right, we are growing fatter and sicker, a good beginning point is our commercial food processors.They continue to doctor our food in unhealthy ways, and they have blocked legislation that would require info regarding TFAs (trans fatty acids) on food labels.

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David Cohler inquires about trans fatty acids. This is taken from the American Heart Association web site (http://www.americanheart.org/): What are trans fatty acids and where do they come from? A fatty acid molecule consists of a chain of carbon atoms in carbon-carbon double bonds with hydrogen atoms "attached." In nature most unsaturated fatty acids are cis fatty acids, meaning the hydrogen atoms are on the same side of the double carbon bond. In trans fatty acids the two hydrogen atoms are on opposite sides of the double bond. Trans double bonds occur in nature as the result of fermentation in grazing animals. Humans eat them in the form of meat and dairy products. Trans double bonds are also formed during the hydrogenation of either vegetable or fish oils. How does hydrogenation create trans fatty acids? To make foods that will stay fresh on the shelf or to get a solid fat product, such as margarine, food manufacturers hydrogenate polyunsaturated oils. Hydrogenate means to add hydrogen. When unsaturated fatty acids are hydrogenated, some of the hydrogen atoms are added on opposite sides of the molecule to the already attached hydrogen. Cis double bonds convert to trans double bonds, and the fatty acids become saturated. How are trans fatty acids harmful? In clinical studies, trans fatty acids or hydrogenated fats tend to raise total blood cholesterol levels but not as much as more saturated fatty acids. Trans fatty acids also tend to raise LDL ("bad") cholesterol and lower HDL ("good") cholesterol when used instead of cis fatty acids or natural oils. These changes may increase the risk of heart disease. Because there are no standard methods, it is difficult to estimate the trans fatty acid content of food items. It is also difficult to estimate intake, especially long-term intake. The four most important sources of trans fatty acid intake in one large group of women studied included margarine; beef, pork or lamb as the main dish; cookies (biscuits); and white bread.

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<<I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can. But it does put a nutritional analysis on the label.  Are you in a country other than the U.S.?  All manufactured products are required by law to have a nutritional analysis on the label.  And I’ve read the Campbell soup labels.

Elva posts from Canada. I don’t have a huge sample to work from, but the few food products I purchased in Canada last summer had nutrition labels fairly similar to the US ones. The primary difference is that they’re bilingual. I don’t know how long this has been the case, but I do know that canned soups have a pretty long shelf life. Also (and I don’t think this is the  case for Campbells Soup), if several containers of something are packaged together, the nutrition label might be on the outside packaging and not on the individual containers. Alice F

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.also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… They don’t?!?  That’s a shame.  Why do food companies wait until laws force them to put this stuff on the can? Sorry you’ll probably have to push for legislation.

Great, a law that says "turn the can around, or go to jail."There’s a nutritional analysis on every can of Campbell’s soup. regards m

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Hi there, I didnt do a home test, this was done in the hospital.  I had a garden salad, with a small chunk of feta cheese on it, and about 2 tbsp. of a dressing called Feta Greek.  The label says it has 6gr of carb per tbsp.  Milk is 1% which I always drink.  I have been doing this salad and feta cheese thing a fair bit, with no adverse results, but it was the first time I had the chicken noodle soup, so that is why I suspect it of being the culprit here!  For lunch that day we went to a sub store and I had a small whole wheat sub with crab meat, lettuce, tomato, onion, and a squirt of mayo, no idea of what brand it was. Diet pop to drink.  That was all for lunch.  I have my bg done at the hosp. twice a wk, the previous time was last Thurs. when I got the 8.0 reading.  

For long-term blood glucose levels, proteins and fats have quite substantial effects.  They will not raise blood glucose levels quickly, but they will raise them.   It is even quite possible that the high bg reading was due to the lunch you ate.  Mayonnaise is extremely high fat. I would suggest you get home testing equipment and test more often. The variation in your hospital readings are too small to attribute to the previous meal.  Lots of things can affect AM fasting readings, including the time one arises, how well one sleeps, and what happens that morning until the test. — This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399

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Sorry, I disagree Although most foods in Canada provide carb counts, not all do. It happens that this is the case with Campbells soups here also. They do however provide a phone number and are more then willing to provide you with this info. Regards, Ross Jackson, father of 14 yr old T1 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – .also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… They don’t?!?  That’s a shame.  Why do food companies wait until laws force them to put this stuff on the can? Sorry you’ll probably have to push for legislation. Great, a law that says "turn the can around, or go to jail."There’s a nutritional analysis on every can of Campbell’s soup. regards m

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I am in Ontario Canada and there is no analysis on the chicken noodle soup label.  There IS on the vegetable soup, tho!  None on the mushroom, so who knows why Campbell’s isnt consistent with this? Can someone in the US check their can for me and tell me the number of carbs in the chicken noodle soup pls! Elva – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<<I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can. But it does put a nutritional analysis on the label.  Are you in a country other than the U.S.?  All manufactured products are required by law to have a nutritional analysis on the label.  And I’ve read the Campbell soup labels. ?? Wendy

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I wish i could remember why but when i was comparing soups the campbells chicken noodle went back on the shelf real quick.  I have several others of their soups on the shelf but not the chicken noodle or cream of anything. jimt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently read (don’t remember where) that Campbell soups are full of trans-fatty acids. Elva, Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup has the following nutritional facts: Total fat  2g     Sat Fat 1g Cholest. 15 mg Sodium 980 mg Total Carb. 9g      Fiber 1g      Sugars 1 g Protein 3 g Hope this information is helpful. Laura I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva

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I recently read (don’t remember where) that Campbell soups are full of trans-fatty acids. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Elva, Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup has the following nutritional facts: Total fat  2g     Sat Fat 1g Cholest. 15 mg Sodium 980 mg Total Carb. 9g      Fiber 1g      Sugars 1 g Protein 3 g Hope this information is helpful. Laura I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva

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It might not be the noodle carbs at all, but as BigAl and others have pointed out, the combination of carbs and fat. Chicken noodle soup, unless it uses defatted chicken broth, has fat in it. Fat works to keep your bg high longer.

Being single and very lazy, I exist on canned and frozen meals. I have found that items like chicken soup and canned stew can be thrown in the fridge for about an hour before opening and when you take the lid off – voila! – a nice big solid patty of fat that can be removed. (of course, that changes the nutrients from the label, but it doesn’t change the taste and my arteries love me). regards m

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   Great, a law that says "turn the can around, or go to jail."There’s    a nutritional analysis on every can of Campbell’s soup. Not true M.  Campbells is an international company, Not all countries have laws like our labeling laws here in the US.  Cans made for sale in a country where the government believes that for the people, Ignorance is bliss, would not require truth in labeling and thus Campbells will print a label just for them. "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Avoid reality at all costs. Net-Tamer V 1.08X – Registered

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I am the person who wrote the original question about soup labels and lack of info.  I have looked at many labels since then and NO not all Campbell’s soup labels have nutritional info on them.  I live in Ontario Canada so it must not be law here to provide such info.  I went to the Campbells homepage and sent them an email telling them they ought to be consistent and label all their products.  The offer to provide nutritional info upon request does me no good in the supermarket aisle, I need to know THEN not when they decide to tell me.  So there!  Maybe it will do some good, maybe they dont care.   Elva – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Great, a law that says "turn the can around, or go to jail."There’s   a nutritional analysis on every can of Campbell’s soup. Not true M.  Campbells is an international company, Not all countries have laws like our labeling laws here in the US.  Cans made for sale in a country where the government believes that for the people, Ignorance is bliss, would not require truth in labeling and thus Campbells will print a label just for them. "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Avoid reality at all costs. Net-Tamer V 1.08X – Registered

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   it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a  nutritional anaylsis on the    label on the can…  <http://www.campbellsoup.com/kitchen/recipe/nutrition/nutrition_trans…. I can tell you this about most pre-packaged foods…… If at all possible make your own soup.  It is very easy to do (I’ve done many) because all the commercial makes with very few exceptions put in stuff that really does not improve the soup, but which their research shows will increase sales. The most common violators are Salt, Sugar and Fat however some companies are starting to lay off on the fat (And even the salt) Still… IT don’t take that long to saute some onions, slice a few carrots, celery sticks, and the like and toss them in a pot, add water, a few spices and simmer.  You can often do "low-fat" options as well The concept of soup is "Dump it in" (Basically back before refrigerators what you did with the leftovers was dump them in the soup pot, There are two easy ways to keep food from spoiling, COLD and HOT (irradiation and the like are not "Easy") so rather than let them spoil, The leftovers became soup. Kept hot so it would not spoil I have a few soup recipes,  http://go.compuserve.com/Diabetes (use a java script capable browser) then choose the LIBRARY tab "Diet and Exercise" library, and search on SOUP as a keyword has more "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Reality is only fantasy gone stale. Net-Tamer V 1.08X – Registered

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Elva – someone else in our ng was kind enough to give this URL for the nutritional content of Campbell soups: http://www.campbellsoup.com/kitchen/recipe/nutrition/nutrition_trans….

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Elva, Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup has the following nutritional facts: Total fat  2g     Sat Fat 1g Cholest. 15 mg Sodium 980 mg Total Carb. 9g      Fiber 1g      Sugars 1 g Protein 3 g Hope this information is helpful. Laura – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva

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<<I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can. But it does put a nutritional analysis on the label.  Are you in a country other than the U.S.?  All manufactured products are required by law to have a nutritional analysis on the label.  And I’ve read the Campbell soup labels. ?? Wendy

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Hi there, I didnt do a home test, this was done in the hospital.  I had a garden salad, with a small chunk of feta cheese on it, and about 2 tbsp. of a dressing called Feta Greek.  The label says it has 6gr of carb per tbsp.  Milk is 1% which I always drink.  I have been doing this salad and feta cheese thing a fair bit, with no adverse results, but it was the first time I had the chicken noodle soup, so that is why I suspect it of being the culprit here!  For lunch that day we went to a sub store and I had a small whole wheat sub with crab meat, lettuce, tomato, onion, and a squirt of mayo, no idea of what brand it was. Diet pop to drink.  That was all for lunch.  I have my bg done at the hosp. twice a wk, the previous time was last Thurs. when I got the 8.0 reading.   Any comments or ideas? Elva – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva I don’t think the soup was the only cause of your higher morning bg. Don’t forget the the error in home bg testing can be greater than the 10% difference between 8.8 and a normal reading (for you) of 8.0.  What amount and kind of salad deressing did you use?  Don’t forget about the carbs in the milk also.  You said you were out for a long day.  What did you eat during the day and did you take a reading before or after dinner?  High morning bg is a lot more complex than just what you ate for dinner the night before. — BigAl

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I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva

I don’t think the soup was the only cause of your higher morning bg. Don’t forget the the error in home bg testing can be greater than the 10% difference between 8.8 and a normal reading (for you) of 8.0.  What amount and kind of salad deressing did you use?  Don’t forget about the carbs in the milk also.  You said you were out for a long day.  What did you eat during the day and did you take a reading before or after dinner?  High morning bg is a lot more complex than just what you ate for dinner the night before. — BigAl

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I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can… Thanks, Elva

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I am a type 2 newbie, working hard to lower my bg level.  I had been hovering in the 7.8 – 8.0 region for the last week.  Last night after a long day out, for dinner I had a can of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, some salad and a glass of 1% milk.  Today my bg level after an over night fast was 8.8, it hadnt been that high in a month.  It looks to me that the noodles in the soup may have caused this elevation. Does  any of  the more enlightened members of this group have an opinion on this for me?  Much as I like the soup, I dont know that I want to have it again….also it’s too bad Campbell’s doesnt put a nutritional anaylsis on the label on the can…

They don’t?!?  That’s a shame.  Why do food companies wait until laws force them to put this stuff on the can? Well, you can get them at:  <http://www.campbellsoup.com/kitchen/recipe/nutrition/nutrition_trans…. Sorry you’ll probably have to push for legislation. Jude —       Crouch Enterprises – Telecom, Internet & Unix Consulting     Oak Park, IL  708-848-0134  URL: http://www.pobox.com/~jcrouch

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