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Some how I don’t think all these people took coffee enema’s and colonics cause it made them feel bad or made them unhealthy.

No, I’m sure they think the colonics are good — real good — real REAL good. Why is it groing in popularity again?

Because some people have a fixation on that other end of the food tube. Read all the health magazines.

No thanks.  Too many articles on sticking beverages up the pitoot. Does a MD education make one a subject matter expert.

No.  But it can.  Compared to some washed-up realtor former car salesman looking to make some extra bucks on the side peddling magnets or stuff to stick up where the sun don’t shine, which by the way, makes them instant experts in health and medicine.  Did you know that magnets help cerebral palsy? How much does a doctor learn about nutrition?

Actually, quite a bit. They learn more about sending bills and the stock market.

Hey, that’s one of the toughest courses around. I think all you critics should submit to the nozzle and see if it clears your mind a little.

….hmmm….well, maybe, but can you add some coffee to that? Get out of your ivory towers.

I ain’t in no ivory tower — I’m sittin’ in my room readin’ an article by some lady who says its okay to flush one’s ass with coffee, and I’m thinking, "That ain’t, like, normal". I do believe that the woman who you are criticising spoke of her sucess with the treatments.

I’m not sure which woman that was now. Can you dispute that.

I don’t dispute it, but I do cringe at it and hold my nose as I slowly and non-chalantly back out of the room… She said it helped her husband.

I should trust the word of someone who advocates refluxing coffee in one’s rectum until it gurgles? Would you recommend some radical surgery instead.

Sure — surgery is just GREAT for ridding the body of all those TOXINS. The man is alive and kicking and happy. What is your hang up?

I don’t have one — these guys can flush coffee up their asses as much as they want.  It’s a free country.  I just don’t think its responsible to recommend such a technique to other people who actually have a real problem when those making the recommendations don’t really know for certain what the technique actually does, or what harmful effects it may have. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lynn and Bill

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s so unnatural about it?  Roast the beans, grind ‘em up, pour hot water through them, drink the result.  A couple of steps removed from nuts and berries, but not particularly "unnatural."  What’s "natural," anyway? Coffee beans, which are heavily treated with pestisides, are destroyed by the intense roasting. If the beans were destroyed, there’d be nothing left.  That’s what "destroyed" means. They are sprayed with numerous  chemicals. I have read that they contain over 300 compunds- many of them cancer causing. Ooh, over 300 compounds.  They must be deadly, containing that many compounds.  If coffee were that carcinogenic, we’d know it by now. The drug caffeine blocks nerve chemicals in the brain. It affects thought process, heart rate, respiration, and muscle coordination. It causes anxiety, increases cholesterol, and induces heart arrhythmias–all factors that increase a persons risk for heart disease. It also mobilizes fat and makes it more available to be burned during aerobic exercise and can make people more alert.  It’s been used instead of ritalin for kids with ADD. And you have the ineviatable crash because the body has worked very hard trying to deal with this substance. The "crash" is not inevitable.  – David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone     These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.     While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-     examined life is not being lived.

Yea if you drink more coffee you wont get that "crash".  LOL

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Never heard of this myself, but I know if you intake it thru your mouth, it’s bound to keep you awake all day…lol…this is what everyone does at work anyways.   Sara I am very interested in the coffee enema.

This procedure is one of those things that, while based on very valid principles, lends itself to ridicule by those who haven’t bothered to become informed.  That reflects badly on their diligence in seeking information, but not on the validity of the procedure. For an explanation of why the coffee enema is useful in certain detoxifi- cation situations, see Chapter 5 of the following book:     Ross Pelton, R.Ph., Ph.D., and Lee Overholser, Ph.D., "Alternatives in     Cancer Therapy", NY: Fireside/Simon&Schuster, 1994.  ISBN 0-671-79623-2. The "bottom line" … no pun intended :^) … is that caffeine introduced rectally has quite a different effect than when taken orally.  Namely, it "..is absorbed through the rectal mucosa and is transported directly to the liver, where it causes a dilation of the bile ducts.  This increases the elimination of toxins from the liver. [11]" Reference 11 is to     Hildebrand, G.,"How The Gerson Therapy Heals", _Healing Newsletter_     6(3,4):37 (1990). Pelton & Overholser Ch. 5 goes on to say: "Recent research shows that certain chemicals in coffee called palmitates stimulate an important liver enzyme called glutathione-S-transferase, which is capable of removing a variety of free radicals from the bloodstream. A coffee enema increases the glutathione-S-transferase enzyme activity in the liver from 600 percent to 700 percent above normal.  During the time that the coffee enema is being held in, all the blood in the body passes thfourgh the liver at least five times, since all the blood in the body goes through the liver every three minutes. "Other chemicals in coffee, including caffeine, theobromine, and theophylline, cause blood vessels and bile ducts to dilate, increasing the elimination of toxic bile.  Additionally, some of the water absorbed through the intestinal wall goes directly to the liver, diluting the bile and increasing bile flow. "A choleretic is any substance that increases bile flow.  The coffee enema is the only pharmaceutically effective choleretic noted in the medical literature that can be safely used many times daily without toxic effects." I have read a comment elsewhere that the coffee enema is particularly useful when fasting is being used to detoxify the body, as the flow through the intestines is then greatly reduced and toxic bile products would otherwise accumulate in the intestine, causing the toxins to be reabsorbed rather than being eliminated. If one reads the alternative cancer therapy literature extensively, one finds that for methods which really do cause tumor regression, there is often a buildup of toxic products from the destruction of tumor cells. Detoxification, or increased efficiency of bile elimination, becomes important under these conditions.  I believe that is why the Gerson therapy and others find the coffee enema so useful. I must admit that it sounded pretty silly to me, too, until I read the above explanation of the rationale behind … so to speak… it.   Maybe when mainstream medicine gets to the point that it is really having to deal with lots of dead cancer cells, it will find this detox procedure important, too. -John Sangster  Wellesley Hills, MA

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Some how I don’t think all these people took coffee enema’s and colonics cause it made them feel bad or made them unhealthy.

Being a heroin addict reportedly feels great and may not make a person all that unhealthy.  But so what? Why is it groing in popularity again? Read all the health magazines. Does a MD education make one a subject matter expert. How much does a doctor learn about nutrition? They learn more about sending bills and the stock market.

That’s good.  Always insult anyone who might disagree with you.  It can’t be that their points are valid.  They’re obviously Evil and should be abused. I think all you critics should submit to the nozzle and see if it clears your mind a little.

Who’s going to pay for it?  You?  Besides, the mind is nowhere near the nozzle, except for a few people. Get out of your ivory towers.

I can’t help it.  I went to college in the Ivory League. I do believe that the woman who you are criticising spoke of her sucess with the treatments. Can you dispute that. She said it helped her husband.  Would you recommend some radical surgery instead. The man is alive and kicking and happy. What is your hang up?

If he’s alive, that’s good.  Whether he’s alive because someone stuck a hose up his butt, well, now, that’s the big question, isn’t it?   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-      examined life is not being lived.

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Great commentary!  My thoughts exactly… Sara

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What’s so unnatural about it?  Roast the beans, grind ‘em up, pour hot water through them, drink the result.  A couple of steps removed from nuts and berries, but not particularly "unnatural."  What’s "natural," anyway? Coffee beans, which are heavily treated with pestisides, are destroyed by the intense roasting.

If the beans were destroyed, there’d be nothing left.  That’s what "destroyed" means. They are sprayed with numerous  chemicals. I have read that they contain over 300 compunds- many of them cancer causing.

Ooh, over 300 compounds.  They must be deadly, containing that many compounds.  If coffee were that carcinogenic, we’d know it by now. The drug caffeine blocks nerve chemicals in the brain. It affects thought process, heart rate, respiration, and muscle coordination. It causes anxiety, increases cholesterol, and induces heart arrhythmias–all factors that increase a persons risk for heart disease.  

It also mobilizes fat and makes it more available to be burned during aerobic exercise and can make people more alert.  It’s been used instead of ritalin for kids with ADD. And you have the ineviatable crash because the body has worked very hard trying to deal with this substance.

The "crash" is not inevitable.   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-      examined life is not being lived.

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Why put it up your anus when you can drink it?  What’s the point?  Your bowl is self cleaning as nature intended.  Nature didn’t intend for you to force things up your backside

Coffee is pretty toxic on the body no matter what end you stick it in.  I see no positive reasons for keeping a coffee habit.

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How is coffee toxic?   Why aren’t heavy coffee drinkers (my 80 year old Mother for example) dying from toxic coffee syndromes?   Safest way to ingest coffee,…by mouth as nature intended.   — Carol … drinks coffee, light & sweet……. "Cover me.  I’m changing lanes." : Coffee is pretty toxic on the body no matter what end you stick it in.  I see : no positive reasons for keeping a coffee habit. :

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(DHAMBA writes: Coffee is pretty toxic on the body no matter what end you stick it in. I see no positive reasons for keeping a coffee habit.

   I see no reason to give coffee a bad reputation it doesn’t deserve, when there are plenty of other things (saturated fat, oxidized cholesterol, calories, cigarette smoke, etc, etc) which really are bad for you in quantities not too different than many an average Joe consumes.  Let’s not waste people’s energies on trivia.                               Steve Harris, M.D.                               Hater of Coffee But Lover of Truth <g

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 I see no reason to give coffee a bad reputation it doesn’t deserve, when there are plenty of other things (saturated fat, oxidized cholesterol, calories, cigarette smoke, etc, etc) which really are bad for you in quantities not too different than many an average Joe consumes.  Let’s not waste people’s energies on trivia.

Why are you so threatened by me knocking an un-natural substance in a newsgroup that advocates alternative holistic health care?  Like it or not, caffeine addiction is drug addiction.  You suffer withdrawls if you go off of it cold turkey. Why this should be considered trivial?  Or maybe you have stock in Starbucks? Coffee is highly processed. Are processed "foods"ever any good to stick in your body?  If you know of any, please list them, because I don’t think there are any.  All drugs have side effects.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I am very interested in the coffee enema.

Well Roxaynne, it doesn’t look as though anyone seriously tried to answer your question.  The coffee enema is gaining in popularity since some pretty public figures (Janet Jackson for example) are using it.  In my former colonic clinic we found that form of enema to be quite popular among the Hollywood set.  The recipe is not fixed, and most users simply mix as much coffee as available in the pot after your morning cups with water to a total volume of a quart or two, and take that slowly, retaining for perhaps 10-15 minutes.  I usually mix to a ratio of half and half with warm tap water, though this is only one aproach. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it really works.

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 I see no reason to give coffee a bad reputation it doesn’t deserve, when there are plenty of other things (saturated fat, oxidized cholesterol, calories, cigarette smoke, etc, etc) which really are bad for you in quantities not too different than many an average Joe consumes.  Let’s not waste people’s energies on trivia. Why are you so threatened by me knocking an un-natural substance in a newsgroup that advocates alternative holistic health care?  

What’s so unnatural about it?  Roast the beans, grind ‘em up, pour hot water through them, drink the result.  A couple of steps removed from nuts and berries, but not particularly "unnatural."  What’s "natural," anyway? Like it or not, caffeine addiction is drug addiction.  You suffer withdrawls if you go off of it cold turkey.  Why this should be considered trivial?

Because it’s usually not that serious.  You can taper off caffeine in a few days.  And the withdrawal is usually a headache.  Not exactly the DTs, now is it? Or maybe you have stock in Starbucks? Attaboy!  When all else fails, infer a money motive. Coffee is highly processed. Are processed "foods"ever any good to stick in your body?  If you know of any, please list them, because I don’t think there are any.  All drugs have side effects.  

Highly processed?  Go ahead and explain that one.  Processed foods need not be bad.  But it sounds as though your definition of "processed" is "no longer breathing."  You’ll have to be more specific. By the way, I don’t drink coffee.  Don’t like the taste.   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-      examined life is not being lived.

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Some how I don’t think all these people took coffee enema’s and colonics cause it made them feel bad or made them unhealthy. Why is it groing in popularity again? Read all the health magazines. Does a MD education make one a subject matter expert. How much does a doctor learn about nutrition? They learn more about sending bills and the stock market. I think all you critics should submit to the nozzle and see if it clears your mind a little. Get out of your ivory towers. I do believe that the woman who you are criticising spoke of her sucess with the treatments. Can you dispute that. She said it helped her husband. Would you recommend some radical surgery instead. The man is alive and kicking and happy. What is your hang up? Lynn and Bill

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: Some how I don’t think all these people took coffee enema’s and colonics cause : it made them feel bad or made them unhealthy. Why is it groing in popularity : again? Read all the health magazines. $$$$ Because it’s kinky?  Something new for them?  Excitement of the unknown coffee colonic?!?!  Does a MD education make one a subject : matter expert. How much does a doctor learn about nutrition? $$$ Enough to know Nature/God didn’t mean for things to be stuck up your anus.    They learn more : about sending bills and the stock market. $$$ So do other professionals…so?  I think all you critics should submit : to the nozzle and see if it clears your mind a little. $$$ It didn’t help yours any. Get out of your ivory : towers. I do believe that the woman who you are criticising spoke of her sucess : with the treatments. $$$ What kind of success?  She never said what her problem was. Can you dispute that. She said it helped her husband. $$$ Helped him do what?  How did it "help" this couple? : Would you recommend some radical surgery instead. The man is alive and kicking : and happy. What is your hang up? $$$ The couple didn’t need surgery and didn’t claim that.  Which post are you talking about now?   — Carol … "I love Herons…they taste just like chicken." : Lynn and Bill :

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: Well Roxaynne, it doesn’t look as though anyone seriously tried to answer your : question.  The coffee enema is gaining in popularity since some pretty public : figures (Janet Jackson for example) are using it. $$$ So someone claims she’s using it makes it a worthwhile activity?  What if she started to dush with Bleach?  Pine oil?     In my former colonic clinic : we found that form of enema to be quite popular among the Hollywood set. $$$ Sigh,….  so is astrology, microbiotic diets, palm reading…. hang gliding…   The : recipe is not fixed, and most users simply mix as much coffee as available in : the pot after your morning cups with water to a total volume of a quart or two, : and take that slowly, retaining for perhaps 10-15 minutes. $$$ Who wants to sit on the toilet or lay in a tub that long?  What’s the benefit?  They can drink the coffee and at least enjoy it that way.  I usually mix to a : ratio of half and half with warm tap water, though this is only one aproach. : Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it really works. $$$ I’m asking for the 5th time now – what is it supposed to treat or do? — Carol … "I love Herons…they taste just like chicken." :

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What’s so unnatural about it?  Roast the beans, grind ‘em up, pour hot water through them, drink the result.  A couple of steps removed from nuts and berries, but not particularly "unnatural."  What’s "natural," anyway?

Coffee beans, which are heavily treated with pestisides, are destroyed by the intense roasting.  They are sprayed with numerous  chemicals. I have read that they contain over 300 compunds- many of them cancer causing. The drug caffeine  blocks nerve chemicals in the brain . It affects thought process, heart rate, respiration, and muscle coordination. It causes anxiety, increases cholesterol, and induces heart arrhythmias–all factors that increase a persons risk for heart disease. And you have the ineviatable crash because the body has worked very hard trying to deal with this substance.

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I am very interested in the coffee enema. i am a little confused on how to make one in that I don’t know the proportions of coffee to water, etc  Could you respond in this newsgroup or email me regarding the coffee enema  Thanks Roxanne  

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Never heard of this myself, but I know if you intake it thru your mouth, it’s bound to keep you awake all day…lol…this is what everyone does at work anyways. Sara – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am very interested in the coffee enema.

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Why put it up your anus when you can drink it?  What’s the point?  Your bowl is self cleaning as nature intended.  Nature didn’t intend for you to force things up your backside. — Carol …. : : I am very interested in the coffee enema. :

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