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How do you get started in running??
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Well, first you remove all of this crap from your email. No black background, no advertisements… After that and only after that, repost your question. Until then, just get out and run a bit. Not much to it beyond a little motivation. -jeff How do you get started in running? Click Below For Details
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clown
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clown
John, Doesn’t webtv have the reply feature? Sine you never include the post that you agree or disagree with, We haven’t any idea who you are replying to or about. You replied to current thread "A question" which had a few hits and simply typed clown. Who is the recipient of the coveted clown award? -Doug
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clown John, Doesn’t webtv have the reply feature? Sine you never include the post that you agree or disagree with, We haven’t any idea who you are replying to or about.
"rick++" does this too. I’ve tried to hint to him a few times that many people won’t know who he’s talking to or what the original post was about, but he doesn’t seem to understand. You’d think a programmer (I’m guess he is one, with the ++ in his nickname) wound have a better understanding of how usenet operates, with all the differnet readers and retention rates. cheers, — David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most insecure people are the ones you see putting other people down constantly."
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – clown John, Doesn’t webtv have the reply feature? Sine you never include the post that you agree or disagree with, We haven’t any idea who you are replying to or about. "rick++" does this too. I’ve tried to hint to him a few times that many people won’t know who he’s talking to or what the original post was about, but he doesn’t seem to understand. You’d think a programmer (I’m guess he is one, with the ++ in his nickname)
Goes to show the dangerous mind destruction for all that OO blather. Wanna guarantee mass confusion, use OO and ++. :) -Doug
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@twister.nyc.rr.com: clown John, Doesn’t webtv have the reply feature? Sine you never include the post that you agree or disagree with, We haven’t any idea who you are replying to or about. You replied to current thread "A question" which had a few hits and simply typed clown. Who is the recipient of the coveted clown award?
Most newsgroup readers have a "get parent" feature. Since I’m already on the clown list, I already knew it was not my award this time. This time it was another webtv user. Clowns to the right of me, jokers to the left Here I am stuck in the middle with you That’s my political comment for today. Phil M. — "I gotta go. You’re killin’ me."
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clown John, Doesn’t webtv have the reply feature? Sine you never include the post that you agree or disagree with, We haven’t any idea who you are replying to or about.
What you need is a good newsreader that threads things properly. Even Outlook Express reveals which message John’s replied to. 
Tim
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What you need is a good newsreader that threads things properly. Even Outlook Express reveals which message John’s replied to.
Regardless of newsreader employed, people tend to do a cleanup every few days – week and delete the old headers so they aren’t sorting through thousands of posts… and if someone replies to one of those older messages, it’s often hard to remember what it was. Also, sometimes servers screw up and post the re: before the actual message. It happens to me from time to time. cheers, — David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most insecure people are the ones you see putting other people down constantly."
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‘trouble breathing’ means …. and what way do youmean lung fucntion?? do you have a lung disease?? plodzilla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does running improve lung function? I’m in fair health but have trouble breathing I went to the doctor many times and nothing works. I do alot of walking.
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Does running improve lung function? I’m in fair health but have trouble breathing I went to the doctor many times and nothing works. I do alot of walking.
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Does running improve lung function? I’m in fair health but have trouble breathing I went to the doctor many times and nothing works. I do alot of walking.
If your doctor found nothing wrong with your lungs, most likely you are short of breath because of limited/poor cardiovascular fitness. As long as you have medical clearance to start a running program (i.e., you do not have anything like heart disease), running is probably the best thing you can do to improve your situation. But running does little to improve the lungs specifically. Lyndon "Speed Kills…It kills those that don’t have it!" –US Olympic Track Coach Brooks Johnson
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Does running improve lung function? I’m in fair health but have trouble breathing I went to the doctor many times and nothing works. I do alot of walking.
Building on what Lyndon said, here’s a post from 1995 that spoke to the breathing issue many people deal with: Followup-To: rec.running Organization: Int’l Association of Marathoners Lines: 122 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: slip07.cs2.electriciti.com Some quick thoughts and observations on breathing: 1. Keeping the same cadence, my speed depends on the lean of the body from ankle to the top of the head. The more the lean, the faster I go and the quicker I have to move my foot through its cycle while maintaining the same cadence. 2. When I am running slowly, 9 to 10 minute pace, I can breathe 8 steps out and 4 or 6 steps in. That means I get one cycle of air every 12 to 14 steps. 3. As I speed up, but maintaining the same cadence I will shorten the breathe cycle so that my perceived effort (Borg Scale) will support my increased speed. 4. As my speed increases I take in the same volume of air with each cycle. I would go from an 8 out/4 in to a 6 out/4 in to a 5 out/4 in to a 4out/4in to a 4 out/3 in to a 3out/3in, to a 3out/2in, to a 2out/2in. So not changing my cadence, I can run faster and go from a one breath cycle in 12 steps(8out/4in) to a 3 breath cycle in 12 steps (2out/2in). Why breathe 2out/2in all the time when I don’t need that much O2 to run a slower pace. Aren’t I overusing the diaphram unnecessarily-which takes extra energy? 5. If someone breathes 2out/2in all the time, where do they go for more O2 when they run faster? Using my breathing as gears, (gotta think about that metaphor), I can maintain the same cadence and go from a 10 minute/mile pace to a 7 minute mile. I use my breathing to support me as I pick up my speed while maintaining the same step cadence. (If you’ve seen the Marine Corps Silent Drill Team, you’ll know what I mean) 6. At times when I am really pushing a run and want to keep my mind from going into panic from O2 deprevation, I use an 3 breath cycle in 8 steps to keep me focused as I keep the body oxygenated. The breathing during the 8 steps is: in/out/in/out/in-in/out-out. This cycle makes it easier to get in a 3rd cycle where most people would only get 2 cycles(2out/2in/2out/2in). This gives me a slight edge as I am getting one more cycle of air every 8 steps than you are. 7. The problem for most runners with breathing is not that they can’t get enough air in, it’s that they can’t get enough air out. I train people to march in place and count their steps, starting at 10 out/4in and working up to 20 out/2in. People have to gasp for air not because they can’t get enough air in, they haven’t gotten enough air out, so that they can relax on the 2, or 3 or 4 steps of breathing in with no effort. 8. In a marathon you are in a trance from about mile 15 onward. It is the breathing that keeps the mind focused and in the present. If I am tired, depleted of muscle glycogen and liver glycogen (feeds the brain), I will be moving slowly at a 10 minute/mile pace and breathing with a 2 cycle breath for 8 steps or even a 3 cycle breath for 8 steps. I need the O2 to keep the mind and body going since I’ve depleted the energy stores. 9. If you listen to a respirator, it is so monotonous that it can put you to sleep. Breathing for me is that respirator. I breath out as many steps as comfortable to support my pace so that I can relax in for 2,3,4, or more steps. I never gasp for air. I have gotten all the air out, and figuratively created a vaccuum so that when I relax the diaphram, the atmosphere breathes me. 10. When running with someone and using an even number of breathes in and out, i.e. (3out/3in; 4out/4in; 2out/2in) I do reciprocating breathe. Your 2out are my 2/in and vice versa. So after a while we have created a reciprocating engine where I am breathing you and you are breathing me. As you breathe out, you are helping me breathe in. Again, it further helps the trance state occuring in longer distances. It calms the mind/brain, which always wants to know that it has enough O2 so that it won’t have to worry. 11. I have found over the years that many people have injuries to one side of their body. One observation is that they use symmetric breathing. That means when you add up the number of steps in one cycle of breathing(5out/3in; 4out/4in; 9out/3in) and they are even then you will always be landing on the same foot at the beginning of each cycle. With asymmetric breathing (4out/3in, 7out/4in; 5out/2in) every cycle you will be landing or opposite foot at the beginning of each cycle. 12. There’s a lot of other "stuff" to talk about but that’s enough overload for now. There will be many who say that this is obsessive/compulsive about counting or changing breathe patterns. It’s stated: "Just run and your breathing will take care of you." These are some things I’ve played with over the years and taught to a large number of people. I’m interested in hearing your comments. Have any of you read Ian Jackson’s book from a few years ago about Breathe Play. In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (snipped) I’ve never tried 2×1, but you have my curiosity up enough that I will try it now. Thanks! Rob Ridley, Cochrane, Alberta Try it, it’s different. I breathe asymetricly all the time when running. Supposedly it keeps you from favoring any one leg strike. I have no idea if it accomplishes anything, but why be normal? It takes some concentration when you first do it, but after a while it becomes second nature. I would imagine it’s nearly impossible to do while wearing headphones with music. 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